[Spacecadets] Sublet Proposals

Fri Feb 5 14:30:04 PST 2016

FYI here are the details that agents put on the flyer for the 7th St space

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On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM, John Benedetto <john.benedetto at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am not sure I am comfortable charging people to store a piece of plywood
> or other lumber.  I think the current rule about "allowed one tote" hasn't
> kept up with reality. If you are working on ANY project in the shop areas,
> your materials are quite likely to NOT fit into the allowed tote.  Even
> materials for the laser cutter won't fit, since the bed is 2' X 3'.  I
> think some people just will never use a tote, instead having material on
> hand, and I don't think they should be charged for it.  Might it be
> acceptable to build a storage rack for lumber with multiple slots for
> multiple people to store their materials? If you want, I can try to make a
> mockup to show you what is in my head.
>
> I was initially against just marking off tape on the floor, but I think it
> would be easiest to go forward with, and most flexible as renters change &
> the space a person rents might grow bigger or smaller as circumstances
> change.
>
> The picture is pretty -
> http://georgemdavison.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Kiski-4.jpg - but
> what about those people that are making something large-ish?  Say I wanted
> to build a Tardis or bookshelves.  That is the sort of thing I would want
> to rent a bench for, rather than taking it up & down & up & down.  It's
> also something I would want access to from all sides of the bench, not
> locked against the others as in your picture.
>
> I supposed we could have some of both the workbench farm like in your pic,
> and some benches removed from the others?  Would that work?
>
> I'd almost rather build a workbench with a shelf below capable of holding
> a tote, rather than building the under-bench area into a lockable space.
> If someone hasn't paid their rent, it's going to be easier to move a tote
> than picking or cutting off a lock.
>
> Under your proposal, does the tote storage in the tool room go away?  (I
> have heard at least one person suggest that).  Do you want to do as the
> London space does, and buy a bunch of totes to have on hand?  Have them
> Quelab-owned?
>
> I don't care if the Donation zone is relocated or not (Or if PFUDOR is
> relocated; that is something else I have heard proposed.  I wonder if they
> don't realize the name would move with the room, or if it's more in the
> line of 'maybe the annex would at least have HEAT"?).
>
> If this proposal is accepted, please remember to update the Job
> Description of the Facilities Manager in the Officers' google drive share
> if that position will be responsible for the rent & enforcement.
>
> JT
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Geoff Nicholson <
> Demonsthenes at meme-complex.com> wrote:
>
>> Greetings Space Cadets!
>>
>> I've been going over the old spacecadets discussions, based on the
>> proposals brought to the directors from the original run (back when we
>> moved in and had to clean up all the fake blood).  I'd like to distill what
>> we think is good and what we think is bad from these, and come up with
>> usage policies that will help us afford the new space we're hoping to rent
>> out.
>>
>> Back then the sublet proposals were for $2/sqft for areas not on the
>> ground floor (Fortress of Solitude and where MMF is currently renting) and
>> 'more' for space on the ground floor.  More was never determined, but was
>> assumed to be a dollar or so more per square-foot.  Additionally, Rooms 1
>> and 7 were optioned for member rental as they had the best opportunities
>> for security (only one or two doors to be locked... and #1 has the external
>> door for... purposes).
>>
>> To be eligible for member rental, the members in question would have to
>> be auto-paying members who had been in good standing (ie paid on time) for
>> a few months (the last draft was 6mo), or pay-in-advance members who were
>> paid up for a couple months.
>>
>> There have been calls to release more rooms in the main campus for member
>> rental at or below $2/sqft.  There have been requests for bench rental
>> (exclusive use) and there have been requests for storage above and beyond
>> your 36-gal plastic tub.
>>
>> To address those requests, here's my suggestion for the structure of the
>> storage rental.  Right now, I'm leaning towards keeping the $2/sqft number
>> in the new storage area (so renting a 3x4 bench would cost $24/mo, and
>> renting a 2x4 spot to store your plywood would cost $16/mo).  I haven't
>> measured all the rooms that people are interested in renting in either of
>> the areas, so I don't know if $2/sqft is a reasonable price.  We've made it
>> such that you can't rent the Core for more than a day or two (event), so
>> our concern about people taking up all the floor space for a month in the
>> largest room in the space is no longer a concern.
>>
>> Here's this in more legalese.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hT7GxRCGHB5We5gZr7FTjQRc7kU0PgxS-u1QNmEqj4M/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> -- geoff
>> -- quelab.net
>>
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