[Spacecadets] SPACECADETS - Space Allocation Plan proposal

Sherie Pennebaker sheriepe at me.com
Fri Dec 8 03:26:52 PST 2017 

Charel, 
I don’t understand the question. I drew up a plan awhile ago, but never sent it via email. I spoke with various members. It looks like JT has it handled, unless he wants help. I’d really like to do more for space cadets, are we meeting anytime soon? Did Bandit send an email I missed? 

Sherie



> On Dec 7, 2017, at 6:51 AM, Charel Morris <charelm at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  Sherie
> 
> I want to make sure my email didn’t seem flip. I do want to read your proposal - looking forward to receiving it. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Sent from my iPhone so please excuse the occasional weird wording!
> 
> Charel
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 8:09 PM, Sherie Pennebaker <sheriepe at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I thought my plan awhile back was dismissed, so I figured other people could take care of it. I had a plan for every member to have space upstairs, and if possible raise Quelab’s rate $5 per month, which would cover the cost of wood for shelving, and whatever else we’d need up there. In return, each member would get a space. Many members want a little space for their stuff, and I personally don’t care how long they keep it there, just as long as it doesn’t sprawl or become dangerous. Things that are super useful in a MakerSpace are scrap items, like wood, metal, and plastic. I wanted to have a place upstairs to store this, because the scrap seems to irritate some of the officers when it’s downstairs. 
>> 
>> I am not much of a woodworker, so I hesitate to propose anything that would entail someone else making shelving. 
>> 
>> We do need space, though, and darn it, I cleared my stuff from the upstairs, so I want to see it used, no matter who writes the proposal.
>> 
>> Sherie
>>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 7:57 PM, Charel Morris via Spacecadets <spacecadets at quelab.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Space Cadets are on this thread but I am, thus far, only hearing from board members (and yes some are in SC). But not hearing their thoughts. 
>>> 
>>> Bandit? Sherie? And others on SC. I know one plan came into Bandit a while back - has that be shared? The board wants to address the upper area on the east side and to do that we need to hear what SC is thinking or want to propose.  
>>> 
>>> We need to get this space into play and so please either step forward and give the board your best proposal or even 2 if you have two really good ideas. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:29 AM, gonner via Spacecadets <spacecadets at quelab.net> wrote:
>>>> In the past members have brought in things for projects but have left them unused for months or even years. I think that some way of making them reasonable for storage or removal of materials is important. Area captain time shroud be used to monitor not to deal with storage and removal. I know no better way to encourage responsibly than monetarily. I propose free storage for say one month and then a space charge for each month for six month and then a must remove date. Quelab has too many members and they have too many ideas that can quickly over run our space. I do not think we want to become a free or pay storage space, members have homes or can find other space for long term storage. It is apparent that we have over run our space and to make things we need space to make.
>>>>                     GONNER
>>>>                     720-6308
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 4 2017 1:55 PM, Charel Morris via Spacecadets wrote:
>>>>> Ok so I think any storage needs to be managed based on our history.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As for fee how would charging for a member to get extra space if
>>>>> needed and requested is any different then renting out work benches?
>>>>> It doesn’t seem like setting up a 2 tiered system but rather providing
>>>>> a option that could be helpful for some members.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like the large space and a place near the front for smaller
>>>>> projects to be settled for a limited amount of time in those areas.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seems good to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone so please excuse the occasional weird wording!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Charel
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Zoot - Craig Goldsmith via Spacecadets
>>>>> <spacecadets at quelab.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I basically like this proposal except for:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - want this more formal -- I think every member should just "get" space there. If we have a captain who monitors, I don't think there will be problems.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - I don't want fees for this, ever. That will "tier" us with two classes of members.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2017, at 9:57 AM, John Benedetto via Spacecadets wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bandit & I were talking, and when I suggested movement on how to use
>>>>>>> the east attic for storage, he reminded me he only got one proposal!
>>>>>>> Without using the words "put up or shut up", he suggested I write down
>>>>>>> my proposal & email it to him. I figured I would send it to the
>>>>>>> SpaceCadets as well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bandit,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here are my thoughts on utilizing the east attic space. The policy
>>>>>>> listed can apply to any area, though.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - the storage area MUST be managed by an officer
>>>>>>> - Free storage for members for things that don't fit into the "tote"
>>>>>>> model. This would include dimensional lumber, sheet goods, acrylic.
>>>>>>> - each member is allowed a set amount for free. It would need to be
>>>>>>> big enough for sheet goods or dimensional lumber - 1 or 2 foot by 8
>>>>>>> foot perhaps? This may involve a money expenditure to build some sort
>>>>>>> of rack or dividers. I have an idea for a rack that would be built on
>>>>>>> the far (south) wall in the east attic, to provide 1 or 2 foot wide
>>>>>>> spaces tall enough for sheet goods (4'X8') & lumber
>>>>>>> - larger amounts available for short periods of time for free (30 - 90
>>>>>>> days by arrangement with the storage area captain)
>>>>>>> - as long as there is room, storage for small active projects could
>>>>>>> also be allowed in the east attic. Perhaps some tables on the other
>>>>>>> end of the room, and some shelving as well.
>>>>>>> - all items must be tagged as per existing policy with green tags,
>>>>>>> renewed monthly, and STRICTLY monitored by the storage area captain
>>>>>>> - larger amounts for a longer period of time available for a fee,
>>>>>>> currently whatever is the board approved per square foot price is,
>>>>>>> though this can be negotiated on a case by case basis. This could
>>>>>>> also open the door for a renegotiation of the per square foot price of
>>>>>>> storage within different areas of the building, though the proposal
>>>>>>> would probably be easier to get approved without tacking on such a
>>>>>>> requested change.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John "JT" Benedetto
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