[Spacecadets] Minutes from last meeting

Tue Mar 29 12:21:41 PDT 2016

I will try and get to this meeting.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:16 PM, John Benedetto <john.benedetto at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just a heads up that I won't be at the meeting tonight, I have a prior
> engagement.
>
> Someone take minutes, please!
>
> JT
>
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 5:32 PM, dknutson <darrelknutson at sandien.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As the person who initially called the SpaceCadets meeting to get the
>> ball rolling I’ll take the onus of saying the meeting for tomorrow, Easter
>> Sunday, is postponed until Tuesday, March 29th, at 5:30 PM.  Top item on
>> the agenda is to determine an appropriate time and day for future meetings.
>>
>> I think we all forgot that tomorrow is Easter.
>>
>> I am in favor of postponing the cleanup until next Saturday afternoon for
>> the same reason.  Saturday because we can clean up before the meeting on
>> Sunday.  Who ever called for the cleanup Sunday will have to make the
>> official call on postponement.  I won’t be able to make it tomorrow.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Darrel
>>
>> *From:* Darren <moodyguy33324 at yahoo.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 26, 2016 1:31 PM
>> *To:* Space Utilization <spacecadets at quelab.net> ; Space Utilization
>> <spacecadets at quelab.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Spacecadets] Minutes from last meeting
>>
>> Being this Sunday is Easter Sunday and a time a lot of people spend with
>> family, should ee consider rescheduling?
>>
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>>
>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 13:20, Charel Morris
>> <charelm at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is there another meeting this Sunday Mar 27?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone so please excuse the occasional weird wording!
>>
>> Charel
>>
>> > On Mar 26, 2016, at 7:46 AM, John Benedetto <john.benedetto at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > A thanks for Chris & Darrel for proofing my minutes.  -- JT
>> > I think the biggest takeaway to submit to the board is: we recommend
>> Alice's rental of 1K sq ft for $700, including the east "hallway", and the
>> North wall (where donations were moved to), and bench/storage rental of
>> $1.50 / sq ft.
>> >
>> > I think we should plan on sending the Board a recommendation later this
>> week
>> >
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Space Cadets Meeting 3-20-16
>> >
>> > Though Geoff couldn't make the meeting, he prepped an information sheet
>> listing
>> > rents & other costs, as was requested by Darren & others.  We want to
>> thank him for
>> > prepping that sheet, especially considering he missed the meeting
>> because he was
>> > sick.
>> >
>> > - One early consideration was renting alternate space within Quelab,
>> such as
>> > Flynn's Arcade or Mission Control
>> >
>> > - Three types of rentals were discussed:
>> >  - A room
>> >  - Storage Space (nook/cranny)
>> >  - Bench or table
>> >
>> > Some liked the idea of a stationary bench, while others like the idea
>> of a mobile
>> > bench
>> >
>> > The following people have expressed interest in renting space at Quelab:
>> > - Alice, for 1,000 sq. ft
>> > - Aaron B., for a workbench
>> > - Ben Cole, for  ~30 sq. ft
>> > - Josh P., for ~20 sq. ft
>> > - Darrel, for ~20 sq. ft
>> > - Aryon Hopkins, for display space (room 1
>> >
>> > There was agreement on:
>> > - There would be different rental rates, open storage vs. a room
>> > - Large amount of space may net a lower rate per sq. ft  (Aaron B.
>> suggested
>> > different rates for different places, upstairs storage $1/sq ft, first
>> floor $2/sq
>> > ft)
>> > - It was suggested to charge $1.50/sq. ft for an approximate charge of
>> $45 for
>> > $45/month charge. At first we had 30 sq. ft (thus $45 a month) then
>> Darrel/Aaron
>> > came up with a finer calculation of a 4 x 6.5 ft space (for the fixed
>> benches).
>> > That came out to 27 sq. ft (except that should have been 26 sq. ft) at
>> 40.5$ ( 26*
>> > 1.5 = 39 respectively)
>> > - Rental rate for the Annex office at roughly $1.82/sq. ft (assuming
>> ~220sq ft) for
>> > a charge of $400/month
>> > - It was recommended to rent 1,000 sq. ft to Alice for a total of $700
>> a month,
>> > her lease to run through November (the end of the current Quelab
>> lease).  Further it was
>> > proposed that it would include the Annex "hallway" & the North wall
>> (to have the
>> > minimum impact) since she would be renting a third of the space.  Alice
>> found these
>> > suggestions favorable.
>> > - JT asked if we are obliged with the requirement to make back the
>> additional rent
>> > of the annex via rentals within the space?
>> > - Darrel will send an email to the Members' list asking if anyone is
>> interested in
>> > renting space or a bench?
>> >
>> > Details on Bench rental suggestions:
>> > - a mobile bench would be cheaper than a stationary bench
>> > - A fixed bench rental would be the square footage of the bench as well
>> as 4.5 feet
>> > back or so out from the bench to allow for the person renting it - A
>> mobile bench
>> > would be pulled out from its 'parking spot' and be returned there at
>> the end of the
>> > day and thus a mobile bench space is only charged per sq. ft of the
>> bench itself.
>> > -A discussion on who would manage the rental space assuming this was
>> approved by
>> > the board. A rental officer was suggested (although the treasurer would
>> be paid
>> > directly still).
>> >
>> > Other Topics (briefly) discussed, probably to be brought up in the next
>> meeting:
>> > - The door in room 1 and whether it should be locked or have a breaker
>> bar, to make
>> > it a valid exit for the building?
>> > - While the fermentation fridge is okay on the east wall, and brewing
>> storage there
>> > somewhere as well, the actual brewing cannot take place there, as there
>> is a need
>> > for proper ventilation.  It was suggested to use the "Hood Room", since
>> it has that
>> > awesome vent hood.
>> > - Geoff's suggestion of Silk screening also on that east wall was
>> mentioned.  At
>> > this point in the meeting I am not sure how much agreement there was
>> (most people
>> > wanted to leave), but I think we agreed that that usable, non-donation
>> gear would
>> > go on the East Wall. At the moment that is beer equipment and the Silk
>> Screening
>> > equipment.
>> > - The donation zone - once purged & cleaned out - could be relocated to
>> the west
>> > wall & the north wall (outside the Annex office) (For the Alice Rental
>> to occur this
>> > would need to happen
>> > - Darren suggested having a shelf unit in room 42, as the "up for
>> grabs" shelf, for
>> > donations that have been cleared by the Donations officer & okayed for
>> any member
>> > that wants them.
>> >
>> > It was posited that the 3D printing room is insufficient and could be
>> moved to the
>> > Annex office, or expanded (perhaps combined with Mission Control by
>> taking out a
>> > wall?)
>> >
>> > It was also agreed that the entry room (Room 42) could use sprucing
>> up.  Gonner's
>> > friend & fellow Quelab member Felicia is interested in doing so.
>> >
>> >
>> > APPENDIX
>> > Here is the info we were going off of:
>> > Summary of Calculations Considered
>> > Current area: 6590 sq. ft
>> > Annex area: 2986 sq. ft
>> > Total area: 9576 sq. ft
>> >
>> > Current Monthly rent: $2080
>> > Monthly rent till October 31: $2848
>> > Monthly rent as of November 1: $2314
>> > Monthly rent total by November 1, 2018: $2454
>> >
>> > Additional osts:
>> > Back Rent (for March): $827
>> > (estimates below)
>> > Electricity: 600 now ? 900 with annex
>> > Water: 110 now ? 165 with annex
>> > Gas: 75 now ? 150 with annex
>> > Insurance: 92 now ? 108 with annex
>> > Common Area Fee: 300 now ? 450 with annex
>> >
>> > Total Cost Estimate of Current building (no annex): $3257 per month
>> > Total Cost Estimate of monthly fees with annex: $4227 per month
>> >
>> > Cost per sq. ft to add annex: $0.325 per sq. ft per month (at infinity)
>> > Cost per sq. ft to add annex till October 31st: $0.457 per sq. ft per
>> month
>> >
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