[Spacecadets] Sublet Proposals

Thu Feb 4 09:44:29 PST 2016

interesting

I had hoped to keep a large enough space for a 'classroom' style area.
Allowing us to have a second classroom / workshop area. But I like that
design that you sent.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Geoff Nicholson <
Demonsthenes at meme-complex.com> wrote:

> I vaguely had in mind a sort of open-plan office, where the even-number of
> rentable benches were in the middle of the room, with them put against each
> other (so bench one's back is to bench two's back, with the hackers facing
> each other across their respective benches).  The power-strip would run
> down the boundary between the two benches in the middle, and there would be
> enough space to pass behind the hackers.
>
> Like this, but deeper, and with a shorter backsplash. The lockable storage
> would go where the stools are, and the seating would be up to the hacker
> (bar-stool, chair, anti-fatigue mat, what-have you)
>
> http://georgemdavison.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Kiski-4.jpg
>
> -- geoff
> -- quelab.net
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 9:02 AM, john banfill <john.banfill at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Someone suggested that the benches be on casters. When not in use they
>> could be placed against the wall.  When in use they would be wheeled to the
>> open area in the center of the room.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* bhc <bencole.bus at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Geoff Nicholson <Demonsthenes at meme-complex.com>
>> *Cc:* spacecadets at quelab.net
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 4, 2016 7:21 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Spacecadets] Sublet Proposals
>>
>> In thinking about the layout, I'm assuming that the "3x4 bench" is the
>> surface of the bench itself, and does not include the floor space that I
>> would use standing/sitting at the bench while working.  Wouldn't it make
>> sense to add some amount of "floor space" to the rental to account for
>> that?  If the rented "floor space" was in fact 4x5 (imagining the 4 ft
>> dimension as being "along the wall," and projecting out 5 ft), with a 3x4
>> bench in it, then the additional 2x4 would in some way provide for a place
>> for me to work at the bench.  That would raise the price/month to $40
>> (still reasonable to me), and would allow us to plan the space such that we
>> all have room to maneuver while working.  To be clear, I am only seeing the
>> "non-bench" space as being tape marks on a floor, so when someone isn't
>> working at their bench it will not impede other Members who may be
>> carrying/rolling things around the space.  Similarly, if I lean back and
>> stretch (or whatever), I (or others) do not bump into any physical barrier
>> at the limit of this space. It physically looks the same as if we were only
>> renting the bench space, just perhaps a bit more space between multiple
>> rows of benches, if we ever got to that.
>>
>> I see this as an analogy to the common areas of an apartment building.  I
>> rent an apartment, like many.  Clearly, some fraction of my rent goes to
>> pay for parking lots, hallways, etc.
>>
>> My $.02 (or is that $2/sq ft? :) )
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Geoff Nicholson <
>> Demonsthenes at meme-complex.com> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings Space Cadets!
>>
>> I've been going over the old spacecadets discussions, based on the
>> proposals brought to the directors from the original run (back when we
>> moved in and had to clean up all the fake blood).  I'd like to distill what
>> we think is good and what we think is bad from these, and come up with
>> usage policies that will help us afford the new space we're hoping to rent
>> out.
>>
>> Back then the sublet proposals were for $2/sqft for areas not on the
>> ground floor (Fortress of Solitude and where MMF is currently renting) and
>> 'more' for space on the ground floor.  More was never determined, but was
>> assumed to be a dollar or so more per square-foot.  Additionally, Rooms 1
>> and 7 were optioned for member rental as they had the best opportunities
>> for security (only one or two doors to be locked... and #1 has the external
>> door for... purposes).
>>
>> To be eligible for member rental, the members in question would have to
>> be auto-paying members who had been in good standing (ie paid on time) for
>> a few months (the last draft was 6mo), or pay-in-advance members who were
>> paid up for a couple months.
>>
>> There have been calls to release more rooms in the main campus for member
>> rental at or below $2/sqft.  There have been requests for bench rental
>> (exclusive use) and there have been requests for storage above and beyond
>> your 36-gal plastic tub.
>>
>> To address those requests, here's my suggestion for the structure of the
>> storage rental.  Right now, I'm leaning towards keeping the $2/sqft number
>> in the new storage area (so renting a 3x4 bench would cost $24/mo, and
>> renting a 2x4 spot to store your plywood would cost $16/mo).  I haven't
>> measured all the rooms that people are interested in renting in either of
>> the areas, so I don't know if $2/sqft is a reasonable price.  We've made it
>> such that you can't rent the Core for more than a day or two (event), so
>> our concern about people taking up all the floor space for a month in the
>> largest room in the space is no longer a concern.
>>
>> Here's this in more legalese.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hT7GxRCGHB5We5gZr7FTjQRc7kU0PgxS-u1QNmEqj4M/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> -- geoff
>> -- quelab.net
>>
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