[Spacecadets] Proposed proposal 2.

Geoff Nicholson geoff at quelab.net
Mon Apr 11 10:24:14 PDT 2016


In the original statement, the * item read to indicate that there were two
"original missions"; I would amend it to read thus:

* The original mission of the task force was to look at options for
expanding, or relocating Quelab. The mission then refined to focus on the
feasibility of renting the Annex and looking at how the space would be
utilized to make recommendations on ideal utilization configurations which
would benefit Quelab.

Having not attended any of the meetings, I can't speak to the content as a
Space Cadet.

-- geoff
-- quelab.net

On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Christopher A W Zapotocky <czapo at unm.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Darrel,
>
> This is quite a set of modifications. Let me point out a few things.
>
> I believe as a committee, we had agreed that we would send two separate
> proposals since these are two entirely separate issues. The original
> mandate of the Space Cadets was as I stated in the proposal footnote. We
> are with this proposal concluding the mission with which we were tasked
> originally.
>
> The second proposal deals with an extended mission and purpose for the
> Space Cadets at Quelab now that our original mandate has been completed.
>
> Since these are two entirely different issues and both have different time
> periods in which they need to be acted on (although I have proposed they be
> dealt with at the same time), I think it is best to leave these two issues
> as different proposals.
>
> For the specific modifications here are my thoughts
>
> Item 2 modification
> --All areas of Quelab are covered by the committee but no specific action
> is required unless specifically requested by the Board, the Facilities
> Manager or one or more area captains.
>
> I believe this is redundant and more restrictive than was my goal of the
> proposal. From my training in technical report writing redundancy should be
> avoided in a technical writing. Since we are dealing with "all matters
> related to Quelab space organization, assignments, definitions, and
> purpose." That encompasses anything dealing with how the space is used at
> Quelab. Since there are no exceptions to what space the committee can
> consider, it is assumed we can consider any space. Since out proposals are
> non-binding without the board of directors approval this should cause no
> issue with anyone in the space.
>
> As for the last part about specific requests needing action, I believe
> that is not necessary to discuss. I left the proposal intensionally vague
> to allow for anyone to submit requests for discussion on space utilization
> to the committee because that is our job as a committee to consider input
> from all the members. Similarly, I left it intentionally vague as to a
> requirement for the committee to take action on proposals because I would
> like to reserve our right on whether to take action on a proposal for the
> committee. We can, by our own own initiative, take action or no action on a
> proposal.
>
> Item 3 modification
>
> I will add this. I would like to change the work "justification" to
> "explanation."
>
> Item 4a modification
>
> I don't think this comment is necessary. The footnote will let the
> committee know what they need to do. I actually do not think the board
> should put down a specific policy on the length of the rental period
> because we do not know what the desired length of rental contract will be.
> The board's best option, in my opinion, would be to let the rental officer
> determine (experiment with) rental contract lengths over the next 6 to 8
> months before we set a policy on length of rental contracts.
>
> Item 4b and c modification
>
> I can fix those. Originally they were suppose to be sub-proposals to 4a,
> but it is somewhat arbitrary how they are placed.
>
> Item 4e
>
> It is already the default status that the board approves any sort of money
> matters, so we are only stating for the purpose of clarification that this
> $1.50 is only for the specific space defined and that any rented space in
> the future will be left for the board to negotiate. We are making the board
> aware that they need to look at each proposal on a proposal-by-proposal
> basis.
>
> Footnote 3
> I was clarifying how we were defining space as it pertains to the fee. No
> reference to how the space is used is stated in the proposal and I would
> like to leave that up to the rental officer. The idea is that that rental
> contract is for a specific defined space greater than or equal to the
> realistic floor space that will be used (unavailable to others). How this
> is to be refined further is up to the rental office. I personally think the
> vast majority of members want mobile space, but that is not, I think, our
> job to determine at this juncture.
>
> I will include a closing reference to the task force as the entity
> submitting the proposal.
>
> Christopher Zapotocky
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Spacecadets [spacecadets-bounces at quelab.net] on behalf of dknutson [
> darrelknutson at sandien.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 3:15 PM
> To: Space Utilization
> Subject: Re: [Spacecadets] Proposed proposal 2.
>
> Hello Chris,
>
> The minutes are from the March meeting and not the April 4th meeting.  The
> minutes should say "The Space Cadets met on April 4th and determined that a
> proposal needed to be submitted to the Quelab BoD changing out function and
> authority.  It was unable to define a consensus on proposal time required
> for a rental lease.  Some of the people requesting rental space has changed
> and not commitments have been agreed to until after BoD action.  The
> attached Proposals are what
> the Space Cadets discussed."
>
> Attached is a combination of the two proposals you sent.
>
> Darrel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher A W Zapotocky
> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 6:31 PM
> To: spacecadets at quelab.net
> Subject: [Spacecadets] Proposed proposal 2.
>
> As before send me thoughts, comments, and recommendations on the attached
> proposal.
>
> Christopher Zapotocky
>
>
>
>
>
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