[MachineShop] Your thoughts

[Rob Roy]

Understood completely. I appreciate the effort you have put into the
machine shop and other areas.
I also appreciate others efforts; not practical in a generalist machine
shop but perhaps some tool sets could be arranged something like this?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jHmz82UijeJ6MxAD9

I am hoping to rejoin and be present later this year, will touch base then
to see what help I could be.

With kind regards,
Rob

On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 1:57 PM Denis Muradov <denis.muradov at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I did this in the last place. Here are the issues I ran in to:
>
> 1) Need a reliable system that records the persons face and the action
> itself. Meeting all of these requirements proved much harder than it
> sounds. People would also unplug it.
>
> 2) You have to notice that a specific part goes missing. In my case I did
> not need to use a certain tool for a year. This meant I had a year worth of
> footage to check. I did not have that kind of time.
>
> 3) After you have the deed on video, you have to then identity that
> person. With over a hundred members this takes time emailing officers.
> Realistically you can only do this a few times.
>
> While useful, such a solution has real limitations.
>
>
> As a side note, I just discovered that someone removed the filter out of
> the machine shop vac. I had just bought a new one a year ago. You never run
> a shop vac without a filter as this destroys the motor.
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2025, 1:09 PM Rob Roy <lucidrobotocist at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Motion activated video recording (unfortunately), and gently correct the
>> first time offender.
>> I think it would go hand in hand with periodic inventory, video disposed
>> of post inventory cycle.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 12:54 PM Denis Muradov via Machineshop <
>> machineshop at quelab.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm running in to an issue. People are "borrowing" things from the
>>> machine shop and not returning them. To give an example, the vacuum cleaner
>>> has so far lost the hose and the small parts attachment.
>>>
>>>
>>> The issue I have with this is the following:
>>>
>>> 1) A person can borrow a single part and reduce the utility of something
>>> significantly.
>>>
>>> 2) I takes a lot of time to try to find this stuff. In my case if I'm
>>> working on a project I become then saddled with having to extend my stay
>>> because parts that I needed to finish cleaning are now missing.
>>>
>>> 3) These parts are rather of a specific fit and hard to replace. A hose
>>> can be made to fit, which is what we have now, but it's not the correct
>>> hose. Any workarounds cost significant time.
>>>
>>> 4) Replacement parts, if they exist, would come out of the training
>>> budget. This means that people that didn't pay in to the shop get to
>>> benefit from people that do.
>>>
>>>
>>> Potential solutions:
>>>
>>> 1) SIgns. Though in my experience these do not work.
>>>
>>> 2) I can put tools in to cabinets and put a combination lock on them to
>>> prevent people from borrowing those tools. Certified users would have the
>>> combination. The issue I see is with vacuum attachments and other similar
>>> accessories that can not be locked up.
>>>
>>> 3) Putting tagout locks on all equipment with a plug. This "could" deter
>>> people from borrowing them, and their parts.
>>>
>>> 4) Badge reader on the door, a number pad combination pad or just
>>> locking the main door with a key. This might solve the issue, but could
>>> potentially introduce new ones. The most obvious one is that in case of an
>>> emergency (someone screaming from the shop) how would outside help get in?
>>> I know that the two person rule should take care of this, but it's still a
>>> concern. Maybe an occupancy sensor (or a few) that unlocks the door if
>>> someone is inside, with a generous delay?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This issue has always existed with the shop. Previously the "solution"
>>> to this was to keep the parts list down and not replacing parts that break
>>> or go missing. I am not a fan of this approach, because it also affects
>>> training.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Your thoughts?
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>>
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